Mikhail Bakhtin 1895-1975
Throughout this reading I found a few particular things to be the most interesting about Mikhail's view on speech and discussion. He defines speech and discussion between a speaker and addressee as an act involving both parties inevitably. He says, "even if a word is not entirely his , constituting, as it were the border zone between herself and his addressee - still it does in part belong to him". This quote implies that a conversation does not belong to one part or the other, it is an extension of the relationship between two speakers and as Mikhail says, it is an "intentional negotiation of meaning and interpretation between author and reader". By having a discussion each party is adjusting the atmosphere of definitions and meanings they bring to the conversation with the words that they speak between them. In this way a conversation, even one that is one sided, takes input from both the author and addressee. This is reminiscent of the dialectic style the greeks used.
Verbal interaction is the basis and fundamental start of dialogue and language, where the interpretations differ based on the individual nuances and changes in individual's perceptions of meaning and intent - "emphasizes polyphony of language seen this way , the heteroglossia of speech and texts that are subject to multiple interpretations". Mikhail discusses how rhetorics changes have led to uses more widely than before, it had become be used for creative writing and personal writing more, as well as the application of sciences (such as psychology) to writing and the rhetorical principles of argument. One last interesting quote talking about peasant type people, who each individually suffering from hunger and poverty, and the way this structuring of oopressionprevented uprising and group collective to fight back, "Such a collective lacks the unitary material frame necessary for united action. Resigned but unashamed and undermining apprehension of one's own hunger will be the rule under such conditions - "everyone bears it, you must bear it, too." Here grounds are furnished for development of the philosophical and religious systems of the non resistor or fatalist type" (p1217).
Alayna Wagers ENG 360
Tuesday, November 18, 2014
Wednesday, November 12, 2014
ARCS Ch 12; RT 1031-1044, 1061-1085
Delivery and Memory: Attending to Eyes and Ears
The importance of speaking has changed from the ancient times with Cicero and other rhetors. This is made clear through the shift in reliance on memory to written "memories", and wider audiences. these changes led to the focus of importance to written rhetoric from oral.
I think it is interesting to note this quote from pg 327, "orators act in real life, whereas actors mimic reality (De Oratore III lvi 214-15)." This is one specificity defining oral rhetors in the time, emphasizing the importance of delivery - their personalized and stylized performance of speech.
Style, memory, and delivery. These canons are demonstrated to be important principles in the changing progression of rhetoric. Since ancient times memory has become more external - as in written and stored instead of the strict mental memorization mastered by ancient rhetors.
I was happy to read about he section devoted to "Correctness: Traditional Grammar and Usage" where defined are the ever-changing do's ad don't of what is 'proper' English grammar, and why the rules of grammar and correctness should be allowed to change and grow with the languages developments themselves as well.
The importance of speaking has changed from the ancient times with Cicero and other rhetors. This is made clear through the shift in reliance on memory to written "memories", and wider audiences. these changes led to the focus of importance to written rhetoric from oral.
I think it is interesting to note this quote from pg 327, "orators act in real life, whereas actors mimic reality (De Oratore III lvi 214-15)." This is one specificity defining oral rhetors in the time, emphasizing the importance of delivery - their personalized and stylized performance of speech.
Style, memory, and delivery. These canons are demonstrated to be important principles in the changing progression of rhetoric. Since ancient times memory has become more external - as in written and stored instead of the strict mental memorization mastered by ancient rhetors.
I was happy to read about he section devoted to "Correctness: Traditional Grammar and Usage" where defined are the ever-changing do's ad don't of what is 'proper' English grammar, and why the rules of grammar and correctness should be allowed to change and grow with the languages developments themselves as well.
Thursday, November 6, 2014
ARCS CH10; RT enlightenment
After writing my essay, and reading these readings, I have come to recognize more of the importance that the 5 canons have, especially style. I wrote in my Essay 2, that style is important in written rhetoric to relate your audience and build your own distinct voice. Style becomes important to pay attention to and requires a concise knowledge of the voice you want to portray. I have always found this difficult, if my voice is the only one I have ever written in, how can I identify the parts that make it distinct? Here is where invention can take on a new role, and be important for analyzing and distinguishing between what makes my writing and my voice different from others'. Creating a voice contributes to style - which has a heightened importance in written rhetoric because of the variety of interpretations that an audience makes.
This reading emphasizes the importance of style. Style helps to clothe ideas - dressed up or dressed down - for the occasion and audience where it will be presented. it includes things like sentence structure and length, word choice, and writer's voice. The downside to style in writing is the difference that different readers interpret it. the best way to have strong style is to be aware and strong in your voice - something that experienced rhetors learn to get better at.
This reading emphasizes the importance of style. Style helps to clothe ideas - dressed up or dressed down - for the occasion and audience where it will be presented. it includes things like sentence structure and length, word choice, and writer's voice. The downside to style in writing is the difference that different readers interpret it. the best way to have strong style is to be aware and strong in your voice - something that experienced rhetors learn to get better at.
Tuesday, November 4, 2014
Essay 2, Revolution of Rhetoric
Alayna Wagers
Eng 360
Essay 2
11/4/12
Revolution of Rhetoric
Rhetoric's many facets, are changed
and manipulated by the way they are delivered; particularly when a
written argument versus one recited orally. Writing influences an
audience in different ways than oral reception does – these changes
in the perception of the argument received are necessary to
acknowledge in order to develop the best argument in each form
possible. The effect of written rhetoric on an audience must be
understood in order for the author to effectively deliver his/her
message. What are the changes in the effect that oral vs written
rhetoric have? The five canons of rhetoric; invention, arrangement,
style, memory, and delivery – must be looked at differently when
used in these two, seemingly similar, ways.
Lets take a step back and look into
history, as we have examined through this course, rhetoric began and
grew in it's original oral form with ancient rhetors around.
Classical rhetors like Aristotle, Cicero, Plato, Isocrates – all
delivered their arguments orally. Memorization and delivery, the last
two canons, were especially necessary in this time, and accepted
without question. This analysis of a subject required an in depth and
practiced knowledge in order to speak intelligently on the topic.
Ancient rhetors were required to research thoroughly and seek all
available avenues of solution in their problems. In oral rhetoric,
orators acquired skills that we today may find extremely difficult
(due to the change in spatial to linear thinking). Written rhetoric
brought liberty to new rhetoricians that ancient oral rhetors had no
advantage of – somewhat of a written memory. Literacy brought a new
meaning to rhetoric, and it has completely changed the way rhetors
write and deliberate today. With the addition of written language,
came the ability to write ideas down, saving
them. Not only that, but the invention of the printing press in 1450
revolutionized communication and consequently rhetoric. Major changes
happen with these two technologies; I am referring to writing, and
then the productivity and expansion brought by the printing press as
two distinct technologies, each affecting and changing rhetoric for
rhetors and their audiences.
Writing
as a technology allowed authors to remember their ideas without the
need for constant memorization – and allowed for revisions and
editing that would make organizing and arrangement
an entirely new animal. Authors gained the ability to cut and paste,
to rearrange and develop arrangement further than possible before –
or at least much easier. Authorship also brought new changes
associated with ethos,
and the character represented in their writing. With writing, rhetors
become invisible once the text is printed, and read at another time –
other than any wide reputations they may have. The audience cannot
see for themselves who is speaking, and what ethical credibility they
carry, instead the author has to be sure to present this throughout
their writing, and be explicit in the character they carry in order
to develop the best face to win their audience. This brings up the
importance of the fifth canon, delivery. Delivery in oral rhetoric
was completely up to the original
author.
When it comes to delivery through writing, or print, the audience
wields more power in the interpretation. Authors who write their
arguments must pay extra attention to their style, and punctuation in
their writing. New writing rhetors had the challenge of educating a
reader on themselves. Sentence length and structure take on new
responsibility in delivering a message to the reader – or new
interpreting orator. Subtly disguised in style authors, now allowed
by the new role of arrangement, would change rhetoric in their
attempts to write it down. Style becomes important in written
rhetoric, and although it was important before for oral rhetors,
style deserves special attention from writers. When giving a speech
orally, the way it is delivered and the style chosen is easy to
deliver, since it is from the orator and author themselves. When
writing, an author must pay special attention to the word choice
used, and the style presented and ensure that others reading the work
will hear the author's voice. This is important in the establishment
of ethos and voice in writing.
The latter technology, the printing press, revolutionized rhetoric
and its world as well through the availability and expanse of print.
Not only can more people read a written piece of work, but the
phenomenon of print, welcomed commerce, and changed how rhetoric was
written. Elizabeth's Eisenstein's writing, “The Printing Press as
an Agent of Change”, described in depth the change in print, and
how the ability for people to store their knowledge (in writing)
allowed for them to accumulate it over centuries and generations of
people in a way that had never been equalled before. Although we have
learned that oral societies relied on their strong memories and
methods like storytelling to acquire and retain their knowledge,
written technology and print itself let people build a database, that
more than the owner could access. In this way rhetoricians and
writers, did not have to investigate every topic they wished to speak
about themselves, or have an intimate first hand knowledge of many
topics, they could read of others' without having to know the owner
of the experience. Authors could now contribute to a collective
knowledge. Rhetoric would be changed in the way rhetors approach
invention. Compared to oral society, literate society allows for
individual research with no need for collective experience as a
necessity for a knowledge base. Due to the invention of print,
writing could travel farther and expand to entirely new audiences.
This changed the way that rhetor's needed to approach their audience.
Oral rhetors saw their audience, spoke directly to them, and lived in
their commonplaces. New foreign audiences present a new challenge to
writers, who must think outside the box much like invention, and
image their audience and all of their possibilities. Audiences are
wider with print, and one could argue more knowledgeable as well due
to the invention of print. When rhetorically arguing to these new
audiences, listeners value an in depth knowledge, one they cannot
easily learn themselves. This makes research necessary for writers,
as discussed before, since so much more information is available to
everyone, audiences want unique genuine insight and information.
As I have discussed, rhetoric has undergone many changes due to the
revolution of writing and print as new technologies. The development
of humankind as we are rests on the transition from oral to written
rhetoric, and has resulted in new meanings for the canons of
rhetoric, specifically for invention, arrangement, memorization and
delivery. Ancient rhetors, while relevant to rhetorical principles,
dealt with a different form of rhetoric than the one we deal with
today. Today rhetoricians publish to a widespread audience, one much
larger than that of ancient Athens. The invention of the printing
press and writing itself, transformed oral society from communities
reliant on strong memories, to humankind with the ability to build
knowledge, and share it for everyone to build off of – not just the
original author.
Works Cited
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Shannon E. "H-Net Reviews." H-Net
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Thursday, October 23, 2014
ARCS Ch 9; RT 761-772, 581-627
Arrangement and its importance with kairos. We have talked about kairos before, and its importance in the timing of when to introduce an argument, or the best way/time to reveal it. But this is also true with arrangement. Arrangement needs kairos in order to determine which parts of an argument to arrange in the right way - the right timing.
Salons, invented in a way by Madeleine de Scudery, are a way of using kairos in the real world, when meeting people in a certain time and at a salon, gave people the means of expressing themselves and 'selling' themselves to others in that kairos.
Strong rhetoric relies on the very important concept of arrangement, for even a strong argument may be arranged in a weak way and lose value to an audience. Paying attention to kairos in arrangement allows for an argument to present itself in the most powerful and impactful way possible.
Salons, invented in a way by Madeleine de Scudery, are a way of using kairos in the real world, when meeting people in a certain time and at a salon, gave people the means of expressing themselves and 'selling' themselves to others in that kairos.
Strong rhetoric relies on the very important concept of arrangement, for even a strong argument may be arranged in a weak way and lose value to an audience. Paying attention to kairos in arrangement allows for an argument to present itself in the most powerful and impactful way possible.
Monday, October 20, 2014
ARCS CH 8, RT 748-760, 698-735
Reading about Margaret Fell was refreshing and interesting in this section. I found it interesting how women were being particularly restricted at this time period (1614-1702) but despite the challenges they faced from the oppression of men many found "courage to express themselves", particularly Margaret Fell. It makes me wonder how in a time where women were experiencing more restrictions that many women felt this ability, why wouldn't the result be the opposite, women voicing less at the risk of prosecution. Margaret's piece titled, "Women's Speaking Justified, Proved, and Allowed by the Scriptures" was interesting for two main reasons. I thought about her title, and decision to use the word "allowed". To me this is an interesting and powerful choice, defining the current state of womens' rights at the time particularly related to speaking, but I found that this word validates the notion at the time that women do not have the allowance to speak credibly or publicly. I do not agree with her decision to use this nomenclature in her title...Secondly, I found it fitting and interesting that she speaks about the right of women to speak and have opinions publicly through examples in scripture that support the notion of equality for women. In the context of her writing and the time it was published, I can see the relevance of her topic, and the credibility that the church held in the time. Now in today's age, I would strive to find a source (similar to the Bible) that everyone may be able to agree is credible, true, fact, etc. But I find that now there are less "commonplaces" such as this. I feel that it was easier for Margaret Fell to accomplish what she wanted to say about the equality of women because she found the way to relater topic to a trustworthy and universally reliable source. People didn't argue with the Bible, especially because of the union between church and state. Now in writing, a rhetor would find it much harder to justify their ideas by citing one universally uncontested source.
Wednesday, October 15, 2014
Renaissance Rhetoric Intro pp. 553-580
What I liked while reading this chapter on the Renaissance rhetoric was the mention of humanism as the first intellectual movement of the Renaissance - one that I had not thought of before. People beginning to think of themselves and others as one whole connected by humanity, is endearing and powerful. Although this movement was largely in the northern Italian area, where Petrarch spent many times. Petrarch's style was inspired by Cicero, and developed after his discovery of much of Cicero's old work (letters) - it is in this inspiration that humanitias was born and later became the humanism movement (pp. 558). This shift introduces a ore personal style to rhetoric. While reading this I related this movement as one that may have been comparable to the development of voice in writing. The distinction of writers/orators/speakers from one another. Although I am sure that scholars could be distinguished before this development of a "more personal and literary style", this movement may have brought more value to this aspect of an author's presence as a result of the humanism aspect being introduced (pp. 558).
Another section I found valuable and relevant to myself was "Italian Women Humanists", one of the first introductions of female contenders in the readings. I read, learning what I should have expected, about the effects of culture on the female scholars. Many did not continue after marriage - customary but disheartening for the development of women academics, although appropriate to the time. It is enlightening to see the treatment of women is routinely constant throughout history in sectors, not exempt from ancient rhetoricians. It leaves me questioning when women will be seen in the same light as the dominant group...leading into social inequalities and away from rhetoric, I digress.
Another section I found valuable and relevant to myself was "Italian Women Humanists", one of the first introductions of female contenders in the readings. I read, learning what I should have expected, about the effects of culture on the female scholars. Many did not continue after marriage - customary but disheartening for the development of women academics, although appropriate to the time. It is enlightening to see the treatment of women is routinely constant throughout history in sectors, not exempt from ancient rhetoricians. It leaves me questioning when women will be seen in the same light as the dominant group...leading into social inequalities and away from rhetoric, I digress.
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